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Games number ten and eleven moved
Game moved shocker
Money, movies, Michopoulos and a moron
Tippy's storm in a teacup
Grant arrives and hats off to Bazza
Mullin gone
Watford game off

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Not much has happened since the Web Tsar's latest, and (for a while) final, recent absence, except the rescheduling of a couple more games. Ho hum, this hardly counts as news any more, does it? Those good people at ITV Sport - the channel you can safely ignore - have obligingly made another game harder to get to for our exiled members. Much to no one's surprise, our post Christmas trip to Man City will now be televised for the entertainment of the watching hundreds. The date remains unchanged - December 29 - but the game will now kick off at the hard to get to time of 12 o'clock, instead of the accessible hour of three. Let's hope the several people who tune in to ITV's games are happy at least. Secondly, Watford have done a Wolves, in moving our away game against them because they're on the telly and they don't want to play two games in three days, the soft southern jessies. Instead of playing them on Tuesday 29 January, we now play them one day sooner, on Monday 28, at 7.45. Not much skin of our noses down here, but one can hardly say a cold winter Monday night in Watford is anyone's idea of fun.

That makes it eleven games moved this season, including the Birmingham away and Watford home games, which have been moved twice. Once again we're just expected to fall in and put up with it, for the sake of a flawed and failing tv deal. Ah well, for Christmas I'll be hoping Santa brings a larger 2002 diary to accommodate all the crossings out. [25/10]

For a many-times revised tentative list of dates on which games might be played, click here.


The Watford home match, postponed from 5 October due to the opposition possessing an unlikely number of internationals, has been re-arranged. It now takes place on Tuesday 13 November at 7.45. That makes four home games and only one away game that month. A chance to get some points on the board, perhaps? But it's a sign of what times we live in that, four home games though they may be, only one is on a Saturday - and Barry had to put his foot down to make sure that one wasn't moved too. Hmm, wonder how many people will be able to afford all four? At least it's no longer a 'Category A' game. [18/10]


Honestly. If it isn’t one thing it’s another. Still struggling to re-establish even a tenuous grip on reality after recent disruptions, the Web Tsar now finds that his efforts to maintain the website have been hampered by some serious computer problems. We won’t bore you with the details, but if one day there’s a black hole where this site used to be, you’ll know why. Anyway, here’s what’s more or less happened while we’ve been busy hamfistedly fighting technology.

The club’s annual accounts have been announced. No point going in to detail when you can read them, and Chairman Barry Kilby’s report, on the official Burnley website, by clicking here and here respectively. These also set out the club’s plans for the future. The headline figures are that the club made a loss of £2.1m for the financial year ending in May 2001, compared to a loss of £1.6m the year before – not quite the break even they’ve been looking for. That said, turnover has increased from £5.6m to £7.2m – it’s just that costs have gone up too, with staff costs up from £4.2m to £6.1m. This meant that wages amounted to 85% of turnover compared to 75% the season before. The club makes the point that this is due to recruitment of new players and improved contracts for current players, with the aim of maintaining our first division status.

They’re right, of course – if we don’t stay in the first division, nothing else matters, and the best laid plans mean nothing. Small, careful and long-term investments – such as the £1m signing of Ian Moore – are justified in the light of this aim.

It’s odd, though, to think that not so many years back Burnley was one of the few football clubs that made a profit. That said, we weren’t in the first division then, and this was before we rebuilt half the ground. I think what the accounts underline is that the team – still third in the division at the time of writing – continues to outperform the club’s financial status. The club wouldn’t come third in a league table of budgets. Or, to put in another way, a £2m loss isn’t bad for what we’ve achieved on the field.

The hope for the future will be that the club catches up to the level that the team is at now, and our success becomes sustainable. Wages accounting for 85% of turnover aren’t something you want to see in the long term. More money needs to come from somewhere, even while we keep beating the odds. With that in mind, I’m a little concerned, for example, at the small contribution made by the much-touted financial services, which brought in only £32k. Still, we have to keep faith in Barry and his crew, who have brought us this far.

I won’t go on, as I’m a financially illiterate, as my bank manager would doubtless confirm. If someone out there with a sharp eye for these things wants to take a look at the accounts and report back to us, please do. If you want to see how these compare to last year’s figures, click here.

As for the future, the club aims for turnover this season of £10m, combined with investment in infrastructure. The club’s AGM will take place on Thursday 8th November.

The club also announced that a new Clarets video will hit the shops soon. Called When We Were Kings, this follow up to the brilliant Rhapsody in Claret and Blue (no home should be without one) looks at Burnley’s two European campaigns of the 1960s. This was a time when we were demonstrably one of the greatest teams in the land, and able ambassadors for the country abroad. It sounds great, particularly as it’s made by Stewart Binns, award winning film-maker and the man behind the Rhapsody video. It’s due out in December, but you can order your copy now from the online club shop by clicking here, or read more about it by clicking here. It certainly sounds an essential purchase, and we’ll be doing a review of it on the site once our copy arrives. I suspect quite a few Christmas present problems have just been solved for our members.

To read our own tales of our two great European adventures, click here.

Also new on the official site, while we’re seemingly doing advertising for them (cheque in the post, is it?) is the online box office. You can now buy tickets for Burnley home matches on the internet – which may be of interest to Burnley exiles. Click here to do so.

What else? We must add hats off to Nik Michopoulos on winning the ‘save of the month’ competition for the second time. Quite how these things are decided we don’t know, but we can’t imagine anyone made a better save than Niko’s fantastic reaction stop against Mark Robins at home to Rotherham. Although we won 3-0, at the time of the save it was 0-0, so who knows what might have happened if, as seemed inevitable, Robins had scored? A worthy winner, then. To read more about it, view our match report by clicking here.

NTG had previously won for his save in the 0-0 draw at Gillingham. Recall that game by clicking here.

Ah, and Trevor Francis lost his job. He won’t be too happy about that…

Finally, for now, it isn’t like us to resist the temptation to have a good old laugh at Glenn Roeder-to-Ruin’s expense. Except, of course, that last weekend’s 7-1 drubbing for the somewhat less than happy Hammers was at the hands of the Wrong Side. There is no such thing as a good result for Them, regardless of the opposition. We had, therefore, resolved to stay silent. But really, this man’s after-match comments, as reported in Monday’s Guardian, defy belief. According to them, the Evil One said:

"Look at Burnley and Stan Ternent. They lost 6-0 at home to Manchester City a couple of years ago and there was a massive question mark over his future. He survived and now he’s doing a great job. I’m still confident that, given time, I can cope if other people can."

With characteristic but still stunning short-sightedness, the Prince of Darkness misses one or two quite fundamental differences between his own situation and Uncle Stan’s:

- Stan Ternent is a proven and successful football manager with a strong track record. Glen Roeder isn’t.

- Stan Ternent struggled because he inherited a football club that was a shambles, with players that were ill-disciplined, un-motivated and not up to playing in the second division. Precious transfer funds had been frittered away in getting the club into such a state. One of the two men responsible for leaving the club like this was, of course, Glen Roeder, who was lucky enough not to walk into anything like such a mess at West Ham. But he’s still making a predictable pig’s ear of it.

And yes, we take great pleasure in being right.

But the sheer cheek of the man! You could almost admire it. How out of touch with reality can he be?

Still, if he admires Stan so much, he will at least have the pleasure of paying his respects in person in the First Division next season. Oh, but he’ll be gone by then. Shame. [17/10]


We’re still catching up here on minor events during our recent absences. Not that, we assume, anyone visits this site to stay up to date with the latest news. No, we do what we can to offer opinion, comment, perhaps an argument, but for comprehensive provision of everything that’s happened, you need to go to our good friends, the Clarets Mad website. Incidentally, if you haven’t already seen it, click here to read their reprint of Uncle Stan’s fascinating Sunday Express interview.

Nevertheless, to maintain our archives, here we go with another round up...

Doubtless you’re aware that Phil “Typhoo” Gray got sent off playing for Boston this week. Yes, that’s Boston, not Bolton, and yes, it’s the one in Lincolnshire, not America. The ever ambitious former Claret has signed for the Conference side on a month’s loan. We would say how are the mighty fallen, except that in Gray’s case, he never was particularly mighty. But to think that this time last year he was still on the books of a first division club! Sadly for “Tetley”, his Burnley debut was as good as it got. He scored, you will recall, our first goal back in the first division and secured us at Bolton. Unfortunately his first goal turned out to be his only goal. He also had the honour of becoming Burnley’s first international in 16 years when he was called up for Northern Ireland. However, he was soon injured, and was said to have grown disgruntled at having to justify a first team place, and worried about his so-called “international career”, although it should be said this generally consisted of late substitute appearances. Uncle Stan doesn’t mess around, and he didn’t waste any time shipping “Lipton” out to Oxford, for whom he scored a few goals in what could never accurately be called their fight against relegation. Now, obviously, Oxford’s new managerial team of Mark Wright and our own Tin Man have seen through him, and it’s off to the usual last resting place of ex-Clarets. The question must be, how many Conference sides don’t have a former Burnley player? Anyway, that’s quite enough about a minor former Burnley player. Let his fate simply serve as a lesson for those who question the Way of Stan.

Ah well. Meanwhile, latest dubious foreign triallist to come to the club is Thomas Sobotzik, a 26 year old German midfielder, lately of Eintracht Frankfurt. Unfortunately he didn’t get his clearance to play in the reserves’ 5-0 demolition of Oldham, but his chance should come soon. We predict he’ll turn out to be “good, but no better than what we already have.” I think that's us done for now. [12/10]


Uncle Stan has reacted to our recent form stutter by signing midfielder Tony Grant from Kevin Keegan's Man City, for a fee reported to be anywhere between £250,000 and £400,000. His contract runs until the end of 2004/05. Grant was one of various KK Man City players rumoured to be signing for us on an occasional basis. Hang on, according to rumour, shouldn't Glen Little have gone the other way? Grant is 26 and started off at Everton before moving to Man City, both times under the managership of Joe Royle. He also played for Swindon, Tranmere and West Brom on loan. Opinion on "Rodney's" talents - apparently there is a resemblance to a well-known sit com character - has been mixed. West Brom supporters really rated him, while Man City fans seem pleased to see the back of him. That said, this is not an uncommon reaction when we sign a player. I treasure a mail from a Sheffield Wednesday fan thanking us profusely for signing Briscoe... and look where we are now compared to them. And to be honest, Man City fans as a rule know nowt about football, or they wouldn't keep saying they were "too good for this division" that they keep getting relegated to, so we never pay their views much heed. As a small budget club in a big budget league, we are required to hunt for bargains, pick up players other clubs don't want and see the talent that others haven't. And we're not bad at this. Stan seems to bring out strengths in players that other, more high profile managers, can't. Let's hope Grant is another of Stan's bargains, then. We'll continue to work on the reliable assumption that the manager knows what he's doing. Grant's main strength seems to be his passing, he plays in a position where the squad is thin and he's 26. He looks, therefore, like the sort of player we need. Welcome.

Meanwhile, hats off to Chairman Barry Kilby, who has made that most unusual announcement in modern football - that a game will go ahead at the scheduled time. The match in question is our home game against Portsmouth on Saturday 10 November. As we have by now become accustomed to, the FA, those alleged guardians of the whole of English football, from its national pinnacle to the grassroots, has plonked an international match slap bang in the middle of Saturday afternoon. England will play Sweden in a friendly at a time when a full Football League programme has been scheduled. We might have expected, based on past experience, that our game would be moved, perhaps to a Friday night, a Sunday afternoon, or even a time on Saturday less convenient than a three o'clock kick off. But no, Barry has stuck to his guns and declared that the game will not be moved. You can read his views on the official Burnley FC website by clicking here. Regular visitors of our site will know that some of our contributors have been banging on about this for years, and it is gratifying to see that Barry shares our views. He points out that it would be easier to schedule England's game at a different time than force a whole League programme to be moved. He goes on to say, "We also have to think of the Portsmouth supporters and our long distance fans such as the London Clarets." We couldn't agree more. So, Saturday 10 November is now a test. Is it club or country? You must choose. You either get out there and support the Clarets in their bid to reach the premier league, or you sit on your arse and watch a meaningless game. It isn't even a hard decision, is it? I know where I'm going to be. See you on the Turf! [12/10]


So, what happened while the Web Tsar was absent on antipodean adventures? Well, Dimitrios Papadopoulos realised the ambition of all Burnley strikers by scoring a goal at Deadwood Park. Unfortunately it was only for Greece Under 21s, but it's a start. Perhaps we'll see him playing a League game for us at some point.

For a view on how Papa played, click here.

Secondly, John Mullin left Burnley for the third and - although you never know what the future holds - presumably final time, signing for Rotherham for £150,000. Mullin had struggled to make any one position his own, and in recent times had come to play the part of a stop gap player, so his move would seem a sound one for him and the club.

Whenever I think about Mullin, I think of a game in London. It wasn't a first team game, but a Youth Cup match against Wimbledon, at Plough Lane, in early 1994. Naturally, there was a substantial London Clarets presence at that match. We won 4-3 and Mullin was the outstanding presence on that pitch, head and shoulders above all the other players - and this was when Wimbledon had a great reputation for producing young players. I thought he was bound for great things.

As we know, that promise never really matured. Mullin never really got a chance to establish himself, and took the opportunity when out of contract to sign for Su'lan' for a very small amount of money. It was an immensely frustrating loss, and smacked of bad handling by the club's management. And, as we eked out an existence in the second division, we had occasional tantalising glimpses of Mullin helping Su'lan' to the premier league.

For a brilliant analysis of Mullin's lack of first team chances, click here to read Igor Wowk's article on the youth team from that time.

He never really made himself a first teamer at Su'lan', although he played more for them, at a higher level, than he had for us. When he went out on loan to Preston, he even played against us. Then, shortly after he'd played for them on loan, he came back to us. It was towards the end of waddle's year of mismanagement, but unfortunately it didn't work out. He returned early after a sending off which seemed to signal, but fortunately didn't, the doom we were heading for.

His third spell began in July 1999 when he returned on a free transfer. Although he never became a first choice player, and never hit consistency, he certainly had his moments. Who can forget those two goals in that pivotal match at Brentford which did so much to take us to the first division? And what about that glorious finish to give us the 1-0 win at QPR last season?

Mullin probably deserves a fuller tribute, but time is tight, so for the moment, we'll just say cheers for your contribution to the cause, John. Rotherham did rather well out of one cast off, Alan Lee, so must be hoping that history will repeat itself. They're facing a hell of a battle to stay, so we hope he does something for them. We would normally add the qualifier, except when they play us, but there's apparently that clause in his contract which says they can't pick him on Boxing Day anyway. Which is, when you think about it, kind of a tribute itself. [9/10]


As expected, the game against Watford, scheduled for this Friday (5th Oct), has now been postponed due to international call-ups. Apparently, Watford have three internationals which gives them the right to call off the game. Can anybody name them? [1/10]


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